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BEWARE! SPOILERS AHOY.
Time for a fun game of... "LET'S BOSS DAVE AROUND!" If you were the boss of Dave, how would you have told him to handle his Sadie/Allie conundrum?
Dave and Alli, thinkin' 'bout it.
Obviously it's easy for us to play Armchair Love Quarterback now that we know how things turned out, but let's put ourselves at the crucial decision moment and take it from there:
- Dave had been harshly rejected by Alli more than once, but thought this time... maybe there was a vibe. Was it possible he was crazy and wishfully misinterpreting "signals"? Yes.
- Dave liked Sadie a lot. Sadie's a great girl and a great girlfriend. But he had a bigger heart-spark for Alli.
So: dump a good, solid thing for an enticing question mark?
One way to look at it is: if he doesn't feel 100% about Sadie, maybe he shouldn't be with her anyway.
Another way to look at it is: being single when you had a decent thing and blew it... not as fun as the other kinds of being single.
What would you have bossed Dave into doing?
And on the Cake front: Well, well! Looks like Clare's not actually getting taken for a ride by Jake! I think he really likes her... I think he finds her refreshing. Plus, let's not discount the fact that they knew each other when they were little. The whole "throwing frogs" at her thing -- is there any surer sign of a youngster crush? What do you guys think of their long-term potential?
And: I'm really glad Adam and Drew aren't leaving Degrassi. That would have been the biggest bum out ever.
So. Clare this season.
Clare has gone boy crazy, I would say. Back in season 8 when she said to Darcy "I'm going to school for education, not boys..." Nope! Not really, anymore. It's good though, because she's definitely growing up and going through quintessential teenage experiences.
Were you surprised at people's anger at Clare for breaking up with Eli?
I don't want to label any audience members who were upset, but I think some of them were maybe... distracted? By Munro, and the "damaged character" -- that's always been a magnet for young girls. So I understand how that may have skewed their opinion, but I think Clare made the right choice, personally. And I don't know if I would have been strong enough to make that choice if I were in her place, so I'm really proud of her.
Even though Clare's the type of person that wants to help, she had given so much already that it was taking a huge toll on her, and it was important to take a new direction.
With the casual relationship that Clare and Jake are trying to have, I think no one's sure if Clare is really built for casual. But do you think it's good for her to try?
Clare tries to do that because she doesn't want to get hurt, and I think the experience overall is good for her. She's trying a lot of new things this season, and I think it's all good for her. As teenagers, even the bad choice is a good choice because you get the experience. And Clare's losing her naivete, I suppose.
What does the world need to know about Justin Kelly?
There's too much to say! He's awesomeness in a really tall package! He's a really good artist, he draws the greatest cartoons. And real sketches, too. He's hilarious. And he's really tall.
So, with Ray and Charlotte and everybody graduating, you're kind of one of the seniors now, in terms of being a show veteran. How does that feel?
In all honesty, I'm petrified. I'm so, so scared. I was talking about this with my friend Krista; how once Jajube leaves, I will be the longest-running cast member still on the show. And it makes me... not a leader, because we don't have that around here. But it feels almost like a burden, a responsibility. Like -- I love all the people who are leaving, but Charlotte was an idol. And a friend. And every great thing someone can be to you. I was always looking up to her and trying to emulate her, and I'm not ready for her to leave! She's always that awesome, put-together person. She did great on the show, she did great in interviews, she had great style, she listened to great music, and we just got along so well. And with her leaving... she's impossible to replace, but I do want to give that kind of attitude to the new young'uns coming in.
So! Your first season of Degrassi! What do you think so far?
I love it! I think it's great. I've always been a fan of the show and I've always loved the work that everyone put into it, and it's great to be a part of it -- especially this season. It's like I'm watching it from a different angle.
What did Munro tell you before you got here; did he give you any pointers or warnings?
No... I mean, I was really fortunate to meet most of the cast when Munro signed on last year. We'd hang out and by the time I came along, it was kind of an automatic welcome. I felt welcome right away.
What do you like about Jake? What do you have in common with him, and not?
There's definitely an element of myself in him. I think he's very easygoing; I'm an easygoing person as well. And he doesn't like to deal with confrontation -- we kind of share that.
He's such a breath of drama-less-ness...
That's one thing I loved about him when I read him, 'cause we all know that Degrassi does have a little bit of drama attached to it. But he was one guy that was just like "I don't want to be a part of this drama."
But obviously... it happens. The more he fits into the story lines, the more he gets his feet wet with that Degrassi drama.
OK, time for "Get to know Justin Kelly." Favorite music?
Mostly rock, '90s rock. But I do listen to everything.
What do you do for fun?
I play music. Guitar and bass, that's a big hobby of mine. I like to watch a lot of movies, and just hang out with friends and be social.
Are you outdoorsy at all like Jake?
I want to be? When I get outdoors, if I'm at a cottage or something, then I love it. But it depends on the atmosphere -- in the summer I love to be outdoors, in the winter not so much. And in the middle, we'll see.
What's your family like?
I have one brother, and then mom, dad, and stepfather. And my brother is actually who I got the music gene from... even though he's a sibling. But yeah, we jam together and he's very talented, so I get a lot from him.
Do you mind me asking how old you were when your parents got divorced?
I was 6 years old. It was a while ago. And for sure, that's another thing that Jake and I have in common. It's different because I live with my mom, and he lives with his dad so there's that father-son element. But that's one thing I had to relate to him with at first, getting to know how he felt about it.
What about the casual relationship thing that Clare and Jake try to have. Do you think those work in real life?
Mmm... yeah, I think it can work. Of course it depends on the person, and I think it's hard to have just a casual thing without there being almost a paranoia going on. Like, 'What if we decided today? What would happen next?' It's very hard to just have a casual relationship.
- Posted on 08/03/2011 by Mary
HEADS UP! SPOILERS BELOW!
Clare has a totes casual sexy kissing dream about Jake. Easy breezy!
You know... Clare is many things, but "casual in the romance department" does not strike me as one of them.
Although... maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions. I mean I also never would've thought she'd date a guy who wears guyliner. Hell, a few years ago, I never even thought she'd wear actual non-uniform clothes. Clare's growing up, and maybe this is one symptom.
And maybe it'll even be good for her. She could definitely use some fun. And what's more fun than making out with a Lumberjake?
I don't know though. There are some who would argue that casual relationships (...or dating more than one person at once ...or friends with benefits) ever really work in the long run.
What do you think? Can casual relationships work, and under what circumstances?
- Posted on 08/02/2011 by Lisa
SPOILERS BELOW. Don't read this post until AFTER watching "Paper Planes, Pt. 2."
Be nice to that girl in the mirror, Anya.
Yesterday I asked the wise, Degrassi-loving readers of this blog to give Anya some advice. Here's some of what came in:
"I'd ask her what she wants. If Anya wants to do coke um... I can't help that. If she wants freedom and happiness and stuff, I'm pretty sure we can find some other options. Especially since addiction and crashes are kind of the opposite of freedom and happiness." - Dulcinea
"I'd tell Anya to just stop for a minute and breathe. She's had so much stress in her life and she needs to just chill for a minute. Drugs really aren't the answer." - Krystal Marie♥
"I think that the best thing for Anya would be to just slowly get into a conversation about what happened, but not rush it and make her upset. Then when she's done telling you what happened just tell her that it's her decision to do what ever she wants but some things can really hurt her and mess her life up in the long run, and she has a lot of family and friends that want her around... they may seem like their telling her what to do but they just don't want to lose her." - I_<3_23
"I would sit her down and talk to her and let her cry on my shoulder and be the friend she really needs." - EastCoastSwag13
"I would just be there for her, I think she really needs a friend. Someone who doesn't tell her what to do. I don't think she would stop doing coke by being lectured or walked out on, she just needs a good influence, someone on her side." - Charlotte_sometimes311
I wish I could zap all of you lovely advice-givers into the Degrassi world. Your real-world friends are lucky to have you.
Meanwhile, as Anya said "Now!" to more coke, Fiona struggled with saying "Never" to champagne. Fiona seems determined to do what's best for herself (even if it means no more hooking up with Charlie), but that didn't look like an easy choice.
p.s. I miss Mr. Tuxedopants already.
- Posted on 08/01/2011 by Lisa
SPOILERS BELOW. Don't read this post until you've seen "Paper Planes, Pt. 1."
Anya thinks she's hit rock bottom, but has she?
At the very beginning of tonight's Degrassi, Anya's worried about her future and stressed about the talk she has to have with her parents. She says, "Well, things can't possibly get any worse," and uses that as an excuse to try cocaine for the first time.
... and then her life gets worse.
I get that Anya doesn't want everyone telling her what to do, but when you see someone messing up in a big way, it's hard to resist. If you were friends with Anya, what advice would you give her at this point in her life? Aside from, "Stop doing coke!"
Keep in mind that if you try to tell her what to do, she'll be just as mad at you as she is at Owen. Can you give someone advice without telling them what to do? I was mad at Owen for walking away, but like he says at the beginning of the ep, "I'm not your mom." Ultimately, it was Anya's bad decision, right?
Also: Tonight's episode may have skeeved me out more than any other Degrassi episode ever. A few years ago, when I lived in Brooklyn, my whole apartment building got bedbugs. For several months, I lived a nightmare of itchiness, insomnia, and paranoid over-cleaning. Bedbugs are reeeeaaally hard to get rid of, so I understand why Fiona freaked out. I seriously wish I could hug her right now, but then again... I'd rather run away from her at about a million miles per hour, because bedbugs are really easy to spread, and one might get on me during the hug.
Sorry, Fiona. My only advice is: "You'll get through this, with the help of lots of toxic chemicals."
But back to Anya. What would you tell her if you ran into her tomorrow morning?
- Posted on 07/28/2011 by Lisa
Don't read any further unless you've already seen "Dirt Off Your Shoulder, Pt. 2."
I sometimes take notes as I watch Degrassi to keep track of the things I want to write about, and the main note from tonight's ep (aside from a few things about Eli and Imogen) was the word ZILEY written in giant letters. Giant sad letters.
I can't bring myself to rewatch that scene at the Dot. I'm tearing up just thinking about it. Ziley (or Rane, whatever you want to call them) are one of my all-time favorite Degrassi couples. I'm still using the present tense, because I'm not ready to accept that they're over. ...and now I'm tearing up as I type. Seriously. I'm a sad little blogger tonight, so instead of writing a thoughtful post about the whole episode, I'm going to post a bunch of pictures of Ziley in happier times.
Zane (aww, look at his messy hair) and Riley.
Ziley makes me sigh-ly.
Zane and Riley in suits... because they *suit* each other.
Think they'll ever reunite? (Just tell me yes. I'm crying here.)
- Posted on 07/27/2011 by Lisa
DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE EP YET. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!
Hello, people who've seen Dirt Off Your Shoulder, Pt. 1!
Do you think Adam's right about Imogen? I mean... "psycho" is a strong word, but what kind of person injures herself just to keep someone she's never spoken to before out of trouble? Imogen seems to have made a real impression on Eli (putting tampons in your nose is a pretty memorable action), but I'm a little worried about the effect she could have on him.
Eli's going through a rough time, and I feel like he needs to spend time with calm, sane people (like, say... Adam). At the same time, I'm also kind of worried about Imogen. From what we've seen so far, Eli might not be the best influence on her either.
Meanwhile... Do you think Ziley are headed in a bad direction? What about Kenna? (I can't add anyone else to my worry list tonight -- it's full.)
And one final Degrassi thought of the night: I've never worked at a restaurant, so I'm not an expert on this, but there didn't appear to be much cleaning going on at that clean up party. If you've ever worked at a place like Little Miss Steaks, do things really get that wild after it closes up for the night? Enlighten me.
What do you think of Imogen?
- Posted on 07/26/2011 by Mary
So, here's what put these two shows on my list of Favorite Degrassi Eps Ever.
I love when Degrassi shows us not just a candy-coated version of high school foibles, but the ugliness that happens when people make mistakes because they just don't know any better yet.
"if there's one thing we can't count on Degrassi for it's showing us the good AND the bad." - GOODOLDDAYS
So, the backlash against Dave -- the LGBT club petition, the disciplinary actions, Zane's lecture, the discomfort of his closest friends, and the angry glares he got from a trans-tolerant student body at Degrassi -- it's all understandable. When people say cruel, insensitive, harmful, and intolerant things, it pisses us off. And we say things like "I wanted to punch him" and "I hope Sadie and his friends completely dump him."
Adam gets through to Dave in Degrassi detention.
But did anyone else think it was interesting that the thing that actually made Dave think was a frank explanation from Adam of what was at stake (civil rights) and what it's like to be him (frickin' not easy). In that conversation, Adam took Dave seriously, and tried his best to connect with him on a human level -- he didn't just write him off. And that's what made Dave step out of his defensiveness for a minute so he could really consider his actions... the scorn of his community didn't have quite the same effect -- it made him feel cornered and persecuted. Is it fair that Adam had to be preternaturally mature and able to handle this so calmly in order to get through to Dave? No. But it was so much better for the outcome that he was. And would all of the Daves of this world sit there and listen to Adam's sensitivity training? No. But that's why I give Dave credit for being a decent and open-minded human being (if slow on the open-mindedness uptake).
Remember: Dave doesn't watch Degrassi like the rest of us. He didn't know anything about what being transgender means (just like a lot of us didn't before we met Adam.) And if Sadie and his friends completely dumped him... there's a good chance some other students at Degrassi would have been more than happy to give Dave the pats on the back he wanted, and they would have formed an insular and potentially dangerous little crew of haters. (I don't know where Owen's at with his various phobias these days but... he's certainly a candidate.) And since the basis of their friendship would have been hate, it would have festered and festered... this is how you end up with, say, white power crews. You know?
Anyway. Big fat kudos to Adam for being the bigger man, and to Dave for catching up eventually. Big fat kudos to anyone out there who tries to educate those around them. And major sympathy to Adam for having to figure this stuff out on his own:
"Honestly...adam has NO help in all this as to how he should approach anything. he's lost. ... i think adam needs to hear some advice from someone who knows about transgender difficulties...and dave needs to grow up!" - BETHANY65
Seriously... I wish Adam could talk to TeenNick user RILEY:
"When I was watching Adam go into the bathroom I was cringing so hard! As an ftm myself I saw two things he did wrong going in there and I knew it wasn't going to end well. One he was making small talk which isn't the worst thing but then looking at Dave while he was doing his business was breaking the code of the mens room. I was sitting in bed waving my hands at the computer screen when Adam did this "like what are you thinking???" Although I see where Dave's coming from, he had no right to publicly humiliate Adam on the damn radio. That's probably the last thing Adam needs is to be openly singled out for being transgender and for making a mistake."
- Posted on 07/22/2011 by Mary
DREW AND BIANCA: It took some pretty extraordinary circumstances to do them in, but now it appears that Drianca are over. I talked to Luke Bilyk and Alicia Josipovic about the break-up, and they were as bummed as some of you guys out there about it:
Alicia: We were SO UPSET.
Luke: After we did that scene, we were like, "So, Stefan. We're getting back together, right?"... It was really rude of Drew to do that, especially after all that Bianca's done for Drew.
What do you think... was Drew rude? And do you think they'll get back together?
KC AND JENNA: So, Jenna's stuck in a pile of poo-protectors while KC gets to go to school -- and now a job -- with friends. How do you think things will go for them long term? Will Kenna figure it out and stay together until baby Tyson is old and gray?
ANYA AND OWEN: After a rough week, Anya is going for a sure thing. Do you think the fact that Owen is so into her will be good for her self-esteem? Or will he find some way to make things even worse?
ANNND CAKE. The mighty mighty Lumberjake has ambled into our lives, eaten Mrs. Edwards' food, and kissed Clare just to shut her up. Do you think he really is as "low drama" as he seems?
NEXT WEEK: We meet Imogen! And Katie! Plus some Ziley story, and two of my favorite eps from all of Now or Never.
And don't forget -- the Degrassi mobile game has already had its first update (and I officially suck at Degrassi skee ball... but I'm really good at making Eli like me.) It's only $0.99 in the app store at iTunes - just search for Degrassi.